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A not-terribly-often-marked day of remembrance:
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16 March 1244 - The Number and Names of the Cathars Put to Death at Montségur

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*raises hand* What's a Cathar? ^^;

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They were standing up to the Pope (well, his agents), and I kind of have to admire the guts that must've taken. They just wanted to be left alone. Sure, some of their beliefs were a bit odd, but...I don't know. They weren't going around saying, "You must join with us, or we'll kill you!" In this case, I really do come down on the sympathetic side of things. Plus, I'm a medievalist, and I've always found Catharism a fascinating heresy from a historical standpoint!

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I'm inclined to go easy on them - this was the thirteenth century. Now, I'm not going to go so far as to insult human intelligence and claim that there were no atheists and no scientists in the high Middle Ages; of course there were. But this was a time when religion was so all-pervasive that to say you didn't believe was worse than being a heretic. If you didn't agree with the mainstream option, then some variety of reformist heresy was your only option. I don't think it's wise to look at this issue from a modern/postmodern "enlightened" standpoint. They were, I think, doing the best they could given the circumstances.

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Thanks for that link. How fascinating. ...And, you know, desperately sad.

When I was four we lived in Toulouse for four months. We took a car trip to Montsegur, and I have this incredibly vivid memory of driving around the mountain and being completely unable to find a way up. It was twilight and so eerie and the experience has never left me.

It's one of my dreams to visit that place. By all accounts, it's just stunningly beautiful.

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...moi aussi, mais je sais que tu ne parles pas à moi ici ;) Je l'étudie depuis sept ans du lycée à l'université - et j'ai fait une échange avec une famille de Lille quand j'ai eu dix-sept ans. Je voyage en France assez souvent, dans le nord. J'adore Brétagne!

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Pas de problême. J'écris en français avec de la facilité raisonnable, mais c'est parler, vraiment parler, que j'ai besoin de practiquer (c'est pourquoi je voyage en France une fois dans l'année si je peux; j'habite en Angleterre jusqu'au moment, et c'est assez simple à faire des vacances sur "le Continent"). Moi, comme la littérature française, je préfère les chansons de geste mediévale - La Chanson de Roland, les lais de Marie de France, etc.

Ah, desolée! I actually refused to learn French at that age because I was afraid I'd forget English. I took five years in middle and high school, but I lost most of it when I took Italian in college, which I'm now also forgetting... vous direz la verité, bien sur!

You refused to start learning when you were young? *gasp* Trade me your childhood years! I would have given anything to have had the chance to start learning French earlier than I started (age 14).

To be fair, I was fourI The French school scared me, I had no other English-speaking friends and I honestly thought I would never know how to speak English again if I learned another language -- though by the end of the stay there I was pretty conversant. My mom always called it "West Virginia French," though, because of the accent. :)

I know that I've probably told you this a dozen times down the years, but my parents wouldn't let me start a foreign language until junior high because they thought it would distract me from "more important things." Given the field I've ended up in, French has been one of the most important aspects of my overall education. The mind boggles.

Yeah, I... I can't begin to comprehend an attitude like that. One thing we're never going to forgive my sister-in-law for is refusing to teach her (then) four-year-old daughter to read, even when she was begging to learn, because "she wasn't at the right age" and it wasn't acceptable for girls in her family to be smart. (Not that girls in her family have much problem with this... but I digress.) My niece is brilliant, but she had a terrible time learning to read when she was finally allowed, at six.

...yeah, don't even get me started.

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La problema è quando penso in un'altra lingua, non è più francese. Vero, è importante praticare, ma non ho quello raccordo con francese adesso. Mi dispiace -- ma buona fortuna! Certo ci sono comunità qui à LiveJournal per aiutarlo?

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My first novel's tentatively going to be set in the same time period and even (almost) the same geographic region. Fascinating times on the Continent, the 1100s-1200s...

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I only ever wrote to three authors growing up, and only one of them ever responded. One of the letters got sent back to me because the publisher's headquarters had moved and left no forwarding address. It felt like sending things out into the void!

Gnosticsm is so fascinating.

"Kill them all, the Lord will recognise His own"

...yikes.

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